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bonzonerd
10-12-2005, 03:36 PM
If you want to get into buying shells, refinishing them and then ebay them, then you might want to get in here.

1. Be aware of market value
Obviously there isn't any market value because market value is what people are willing to pay, but you have to be aware of how much kits of your kind/condition go for. There is nothing worse then spending money refinishing a drum only to find you can't make a profit on it.

2. Have a parts collection
It is good to have an extensive parts collection before you start buying shells because often the parts cost way more then the shell does. Be sure to browse ebay to find the best deal.

3. Be patient, and keep looking
Cheap, vintage drums don't come easy. You have to be patient unless you are looking to spend top dollar for museum grade quality. 18" Floors and 26" Kicks are increasingly rare and to find a good deal (on ebay) you have to be incredibly patient. Make a habit of frequenting pawn shops and garage sales because you never know what you may find.

4. Know what you are buying
Take a pen and checklist whenever you go to buy a vintage drum. Make sure the edges are intact and that the shells are round. If hardware is rusty or the wrap is coming off then just get them to take some money off because chances are you were going to re wrap anyway, and the hardware is easy to clean. Be able to tell if something is fake or not too. There is a company that sells fake Vistalites on ebay so you have to keep your head up. A good idea is to take pics of an item, take pics, get it put on hold and then when you get home have the pics appraised. By doing that you can find out if you're getting a good deal and if you can make profit off it.

5. Originality
Originality really counts on old drums, especially if they are signature to a famous drummer. If you see a drum in fair to poor condition and isn't too expensive, don't shy away because often value won't depreciate when a signature item is still completely original. In many cases, value does depreciate when something is modified. IE: re wraps, or modern hardware.

Vintage drums are a great hobby, and hopefully this will help you out when you go to buy. I have a link to a great inspection checklist that I will post as well. Feel free to post helpful links or tips that I haven't already pointed out.

bonzonerd
10-12-2005, 03:38 PM
Here is a link to that checklist.

http://www.vintagedrum.com/inspect_vd.htm

bonzonerd
10-12-2005, 03:43 PM
Supply and demand is a big factor too. If it is a common finish at a medium high to high price, you aren't going to make a profit unless you can talk them down or trade something. You can try re wrapping it and then selling it but then you have to be prepared to either lose money or keep it.

bonzonerd
10-12-2005, 05:32 PM
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DM24
10-13-2005, 02:05 AM
Thank you bonzo that was very helpful.

Seems a few people on the board are getting into this buying and selling thing over eBay. I guess the easiest way to get a fast capital is to buy kits with extra hardware, cymbals and snare's, and sell everything on it seperatly.

I think that could make some good money slowly and be a good stepping stone into vintage kit restoration/collecting/selling....

I mean just the other day i found a nice Premier Genista with a set of Zildjian K's, some nice pearl hardware and a nice pork pie throne...I think in the end it went for around the £650 mark.

Now the Genista shell pack i reckon would get £350 at least, the k's if sold serperatly would probably bring in it at least £450 and then the hardware and throne probably another £220.

Making a grand total of £1020. Nice profit there....


Anyways just an idea, but thanks again bonzo.

bonzonerd
10-13-2005, 03:15 PM
No prob.

"the shrub"
10-13-2005, 04:07 PM
thanks dude, i've been slowly getting into the buying and refinishing, and selling market. very informative and appreciated.

slybond
10-13-2005, 04:14 PM
cant wait to read this when i get home

hotrodder
10-13-2005, 04:48 PM
Great post mate, A while back I purchased a Rogers Big R 22 x 16 Bass drum, all the hardware was mint, it had a new eq3 batter head and came with a mint hardcase, all this for $200 Australian. I sold the hard case on Ebay for $150 that same week.
It had a premier tom block/mount that I sold for $25 as well so im out $25 and have a Big R bass drum to start completing a kit :)

bonzonerd
10-13-2005, 09:10 PM
:)

ObiWan
06-20-2009, 09:32 AM
This thread brings up an interesting question I have gone back-and-forth about. I recently bought a set of Pro DX shells from the 80's (22 BD, 16 & 18 FT's) that I'm in the process of restoring, and it came with an additional 22" BD for parts. The wrap is honestly pretty bubbled and dinged-up, but the shell is still in good shape and has most of the hardware. It would make a great restore project, but I ask the Pearl vintage group would it generally be better that I go ahead and spend the $ to restore it myself and then sell, or sell as-is to someone looking for a project? Or...just keep the parts for myself, LOL!

3pearlkits
06-20-2009, 03:48 PM
In the current economic climate, I think you should only rewrap a kit if you're going to keep it.
Wrap is reasonably expensive, so by the time you add together the purchase cost + wrap + time etc, you need to put a higher sell price on it, which you may have some difficulty achieving at the moment.
If you got the kit for a steal, move it on for a bit more...