Old Pearl Kits--show Me!!

[CARL PETERSON]

I guess I'll start this one too..yipee! My 68' white sparkle. 20,13,16, snare right out of box from California-day of delivery to Nashville,TN.

[DeadSkinMask]

i'll post some kits when i get back in an hour or so..i have a collection of pics for ya ;)

[CARL PETERSON]

My ultra cool 69' Tiger--Rare pups! (B4 restoration) Pic from day of purchase outside of Knoxville ,TN 22,12,13,16

[Thrush]

Good to see you back on the Forum Carl :)

Do mine count? They are at least 12yrs old, possibly 20yrs old!!! So maybe not really old, but pretty rare tho :)

[CARL PETERSON]

My 69' President kit in blue tiger..I nabbed these from a guy in Seattle,WA. 22,12,13,16..

[CARL PETERSON]

Thrush............CZX.................YEAH!!!

[CARL PETERSON]

Did someone say Fiberglass? My 73' kit in Red Satin.. 24,12,16,18 COB snare..All orig-even the stands..

[Andy @ MIT]

Pearl Extender in Orange Flash circa 1982... soon to be Carl's (i think)

[imperium70791]

Good to see you back on the Forum Carl :)

Do mine count? They are at least 12yrs old, possibly 20yrs old!!! So maybe not really old, but pretty rare tho :)

dude!!! thats hella nice!!!! wouldnt mind havin a czx kit myself, esp a double bass one like yours ;)

[Living Deadbeat]

Nice Kits !

[Smoke N Drums]

Good to see you back on the Forum Carl :)

Do mine count? They are at least 12yrs old, possibly 20yrs old!!! So maybe not really old, but pretty rare tho :)


What's the official title of that color?

It looks alot like the forerunner to #151 Platinum Mist, which as you all know: Rules The World!

[DeadSkinMask]

100 bucks
http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-PEARL-SHELL-KIT_W0QQitemZ7357505015QQcategoryZ64441QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

leatherette wraps
http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-Pearl-4-piece-kit-Leatherette-NR_W0QQitemZ7357654593QQcategoryZ38097QQssPageName ZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem wraps..:eek:

cool slingerland.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Slingerland-Sky-Blue-Pearl-Jazz-Kit-13-16-20_W0QQitemZ7356938502QQcategoryZ64442QQssPageName ZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Thrush]

It's #300 Champagne...

Over Bird's Eye Maple ;)

[DruMMer PuNk]

wow look how much the hardware and such has evovled..nice kits too

[bonzonerd]

nice

[DRUMBOO]

Glx

[DRUMBOO]

wood fiberglass

[DRUMBOO]

another wood fiberglass

[hotrodder]

69 dynas in Oyster Pearl just fer you Carl :)

Complete with my 2 yr old daughter doing a demo :)

[weezer_army]

sweet kit!

[nils]

BLX ~1984 (mixed with some BRXs from 2003):

[Frederik W]

Does mine count? They're 1988 = 17 years old... Is that vintage?

EVERYTHING is 1988, except my ZYN70 crash which is a 1971 :cool:

[Drummer67]

I guess I'll start this one too..yipee! My 68' white sparkle. 20,13,16, snare right out of box from California-day of delivery to Nashville,TN.



wow thats vintage

[Drummer67]

BLX ~1984 (mixed with some BRXs from 2003):



that first kit is awsome

[medicdrummer]

These are the natural lacquer ones I've been talking to you about Carl.

[Dawael]

sweet kits, keep them comming !!

[bigtone23]

Pearl Extender in Orange Flash circa 1982... soon to be Carl's (i think)
These are cool. What are the sizes? Looks like a 12" shell with 13" head, 14 and 16" floors with 16 & 18" heads...

[Scissor Fight]

On the extender series, Carl do you know if there was a Forum extender series or if it was a retro fit, because my school has a set of forums with extenders on them, pretty old judging by the badge

[CARL PETERSON]

They are FORUMS? Weird..Got a pic?

[Redbeard]

Can someone explain some of the old names like President, Dyna, Maxwin. What are they made of, when were they made, etc?

[4pcPunkass]

OMG

My practise kit...

First pic, from earlier in the thread.(One of Carl's kits)

[CARL PETERSON]

Well...its the same color..not the same kit..Mine are Presidents..Close though.. ;)

[iceyflame]

Carl, whats the oldest kit you own? Is it like prehistoric or something?

I can see it now:

Heres my stone-shelled kit, circa 350B.C, 12", 16", 22"

[CARL PETERSON]

My oldest kits..HMMMM I got it from my buddy Fred Flintstone while I was doing a gig in Bedrock...Honestly, well I sold it recently was a 1920's Ludwig, and a Leedy 40's bomber kit..(White Marine with wood hardware.) Right now my oldest kits are just 1950's and 60's Pearl gear..Some Ludwig and WFL, Slingerland, Gretsch and Rogers too..

[DeadSkinMask]

Right now my oldest kits are just 1950's and 60's Pearl gear..Some Ludwig and WFL, Slingerland, Gretsch and Rogers too..

basically every vintage drum company ever around :p

[Thrush]

... WFL ...
Worlds Fastest Lemming?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/50/Lemming.jpg

:D

[bombay]

Heres my wood fiberglass. Bought used in the earily 80's, probably mfg'rd in the late 70's, but I dont know for sure. Bar/smoke faded white.
22 x 14 bass drum
13 and 14 mounted tom
14 and 16 floor toms (14 floor is an add on, maple shell, no fiberglass)
14 x 6 or 6 1/2 ? dont remember snare depth exactly.
new gibralter rack
mostly old ziljian cymbals.
upgraded heads - evans G1 and G2 and aquarian bass beater.

[andyman1970]

Heres my wood fiberglass. Bought used in the earily 80's, probably mfg'rd in the late 70's, but I dont know for sure. Bar/smoke faded white.
22 x 14 bass drum
13 and 14 mounted tom
14 and 16 floor toms (14 floor is an add on, maple shell, no fiberglass)
14 x 6 or 6 1/2 ? dont remember snare depth exactly.
new gibralter rack
mostly old ziljian cymbals.
upgraded heads - evans G1 and G2 and aquarian bass beater.

We have somewhat similar kits - let me see if I can post a picture later today.

[bombay]

We have somewhat similar kits - let me see if I can post a picture later today.

Cool, I'd like to see it. :)

[andyman1970]

Here's a link to my current thread:

http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=73931&highlight=Pushing+Twenty

[funkymcstain]

if honkywonky and thrush are vintage i guess mine are too. early 90s MLX.....

[bombay]

Here's a link to my current thread:

http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=73931&highlight=Pushing+Twenty

Wow - nice kit. And its soooooooooooooooooo WHITE !
The only place mine looks that white is under all the hardware. When I pulled it out of the cases earlier this summer to set back up I also pulled everything apart to clean and upgrade. Its really noticable how the bar atmosphere (smoke) really discolored the wrap. I never played it in a bar setting, but the guy who owned it before me played out quite a bit.
You have a beautiful set up, good job keeping it up like that.

[korch]

Here's another early 90s BLX to add to the list.

[andyman1970]

Wow - nice kit. And its soooooooooooooooooo WHITE !
The only place mine looks that white is under all the hardware. When I pulled it out of the cases earlier this summer to set back up I also pulled everything apart to clean and upgrade. Its really noticable how the bar atmosphere (smoke) really discolored the wrap. I never played it in a bar setting, but the guy who owned it before me played out quite a bit.
You have a beautiful set up, good job keeping it up like that.

Thank you!

[CARL PETERSON]

My NEW well vintage EXTENDERS..Andy and I closed the deal yesterday! Just what I need....MORE DRUMS.. 00**

[DeadSkinMask]

oooohh, i like that one Carl..that snare is tempting..Are they maple shells?

[CARL PETERSON]

Yeah..see that little badge under the bass drum logo? Says "Maple Shell"..

[DeadSkinMask]

Yeah..see that little badge under the bass drum logo? Says "Maple Shell"..

ahhh..is that what is says.i thought it said free tacos. :D i couldnt see it :( :p

[jbrandt]

Here is my old set of Exports, bought brand new in 1979-80? Pictures taken 3 years ago before the "replace the shells" project began. It was actually a 7-piece kit and the 13" tom is still untouched. Pictures before and after plus original shells.

Jeff

[andyman1970]

That's some nice work, man! You're giving me ideas on what to do with my White kit, which could pass for a twin of yours!

[TamaDrummer88]

I like how you mounted tom mount of the bass drum.

[bumhead]

Good to see you back on the Forum Carl :)

Do mine count? They are at least 12yrs old, possibly 20yrs old!!! So maybe not really old, but pretty rare tho :)
everytime i see that kit i feel a little chubby come on! IMO the best looking kit on the forum.

[Mr. B.]

I like how you mounted tom mount of the bass drum.


Indeed, that's pretty clever!

-Mr. B.

[OmniscientGopher]

Maxwins
Cannon side toms

[Jonas Sperl]

I bought a 1966 Pearl President, in red sparkle. 22, 13, and 16...gonna get to see it for the first time next week when it finally arrives. Shall post some pics, then a massive restoration project.

Also own a 1974 black and white swirl Ludwig Vistalite 14"x5" snare, and just bought a mid 60's 21" Zyn ride.

One could say, I've been bitten by the vintage bug :D I keep looking for more and more.

[iceyflame]

My oldest kits..HMMMM I got it from my buddy Fred Flintstone while I was doing a gig in Bedrock...Honestly, well I sold it recently was a 1920's Ludwig, and a Leedy 40's bomber kit..(White Marine with wood hardware.) Right now my oldest kits are just 1950's and 60's Pearl gear..Some Ludwig and WFL, Slingerland, Gretsch and Rogers too..

1920s, eh? Got any pics of that one?

[mfo9168389]

I gave my son this exact same kit about a year ago.Carl just wondering approx how much it is worth?

[ian40uk]

My 70's Maxwin................. naked and vulnerable :eek: .

this week i am buying wrap for it, probably aqua sparkle, but still undecided.you can see the 6" tom in the background, thats the original colour of the kit, but the wrap was badly damaged on most drums so i decided to strip it completely and give it a new coat , so when its done i'll have a right funky kit ( all single headed ) in sizes :- 22/16/13/12/8/6

pending my re-cover job, i should have this finished in a week or 2, i'll post the result when done :cool:

[Aks]

:rolleyes: anymore i love vintage kits

[Aks]

some a friend has on sale..
60's Permier

**edit'ed bigger pics**

[Aks]

and oldest kit pics so far

1920's

Solid Ash hoops,"15 x 4" ...16 single tensions rods and 10 Vents
One for you lot to drool over :D :D :D

also came with this inside

[AnimalGLX]

My vintage GLX, 1985, with "Vintage" Wood hoops. :rolleyes:
The kit is in mint condition.

[Thrush]

What sizes are those Animal? Unusual set up, but the kits looks absolutely gorgeous!!!


Bumhead - thanks dude, means a lot :)

[AnimalGLX]

The specs are:
tomtoms:
8" x 10"
10" x 12"
12" x 14"
14" x 15"
Floor tom:
16" x 16"
Bassdrum:
14" x 22"

This setup is an original eighty's setup :) .

[TamaDrummer88]

why is there a flat side on the wood hoops?

[3Dave3]

why is there a flat side on the wood hoops?

So you can get the toms closer and tighten up the set-up, if AnimalGLX changed the location of the Opti-Mounts then he'd be able to get the toms closer.

Dave...

[susswald]

sweet stuff from all

[ian40uk]

done a fine job of the 12" tom, just thought i'd update the thread :rolleyes:

before and after, not very good pics but when the rest are finished i'll post photos of the complete kit in its 70's retro glory ( Aqua Sparkle )

IAN

[Big King]

My very 1st set was a "Brady" from sometime in the 1970's. . I recently found an old photo of me playing it. If I can get my hands on a scanner, I'll post it.

[matt_e_williams]

hey guys...

i've had this czx studio BIRCH kit which i purchased from a friend about 6 years ago. i was told the kit was from '93 and was just wondering if you guys knew any more details about it... i've heard that it was a fairly expensive kit when it was first introduced, any idea how much it sold for? or any other details?

thanks!!

http://www.levelmarketinganddesign.com/CZX/czx_studio_3.jpg

[CARL PETERSON]

Circa 1992...BIRCH CZX Studios had 10 ply, 12.5 mm floor toms and bass drums,and the toms sported 8 ply, 10mm shells.Came in 2 lacquer color choices. Midnight Quartz # 131- which is your color, or Crimson Quartz # 133 a purple/rose color sparkle..they were and still are high $$ drums. A 5 pc kit in 92' had a list price of $ 4,750.00

Hope that helps..


Carl

[matt_e_williams]

thanks... helped a lot.

[matt_e_williams]

carl,

any clue what the kit could be worth today?

matt

[CARL PETERSON]

What sizes , condition ? Help a brother out man.. :p

[Thrush]

Circa 1992...BIRCH CZX Studios had 10 ply, 12.5 mm floor toms and bass drums,and the toms sported 8 ply, 10mm shells.Came in 2 lacquer color choices. Midnight Quartz # 131- which is your color, or Crimson Quartz # 133 a purple/rose color sparkle..they were and still are high $$ drums. A 5 pc kit in 92' had a list price of $ 4,750.00

Hope that helps..


Carl

I was so nearly bang on the money!!! I told him in another thread that it was Crimzon Sparkle, doh! I knew the ply config tho - same as the maple CZX I have :)

[gvillecorp8073]

Some pretty cool old kits.....it's cool to see some old Pearls!

[drummerboyskank]

awesome...some one with the same kit as me....dude...you got more pics??and Thrush??what thread did ya tell Him the info??

[drummerboyskank]

actually ..mine is crimson quartz isnt it??its hard to tell as the finish changes colour depending on the lights!

[drummerboyskank]

matt_e.. ive just seen your kit on ebay..lol...selling it huh?i wouldnt... i love mine so much!

[C4NTY]

mel is your kit black or what?

[drummerboyskank]

nah man..it looks black...generally..but dpending on the light or how close yoy are..it varies from a red sparkle to a green sparkle...and sometimes even slightly purple..its crazy!

[HumppaInferno]

Good Afternoon everybody !!!

This is my gear (currently not in use becauseI´m taking a break from making music due to the shortage of my freetime :-() . It´s a 1983 Pearl ELX. The only changes I made are the ISS on the Racktoms and the black bassdrumhoops because the old ones were dented and scratched. The matching snare is now equipped with Pearl superhoops from an old steel freefloater (bought them on ebay for just 4 EUR !!! :-))

I bought this set for about 350 EUR in 1993 from a guy who stored it in a cellar for about six years and ist was in a quite bad condition (dirt,rust,etc...) Apart from this the drumheads were bashed and the cymbals who came with sounded like fryingpans..... After an entire weekend of deassembling, polishing and reassembling the kit was in a quite good condition again...

In 2000 I found my brass freefloater (hex lugs made in japan) for 75 EUR (!) in a newspaper announcement and in 2002 i bought the steel spareshell off ebay for 50 EUR.

The last thing i bought was a matching 8`` tom I found on ebay. So if anybody has an idea how to integrate it into an offcenter tom-set please drop me a line.

OK.... talked enough now... here are the pics:

[CARL PETERSON]

That looks like a MX kit not ELX.. ;) HEY GO SOUTHPAWS !!!!! ;)

[HumppaInferno]

Well.. Gene Okamoto has send me an exerpt from a 1983 catalogue and he says that it´s an elx.....

[ntime]

Hi Carl, man you`ve got some really nice drum kits. I have a question about my first drum kit. It was made in the 60`s because I got it in 1970 and it was used. I no longer own the drums, but the name Cresciendo was on the badges. Can you tell me who made them? Thanks!

NTIME Pearl Drummer

[tramp!]

My good ol' Pearls. I have no information on them whatsoever, but damn, that is one old mounting system!

If anyone feels like seeing set-up, I'll do my best to dig em up and do it :D

[matt_e_williams]

matt_e.. ive just seen your kit on ebay..lol...selling it huh?i wouldnt... i love mine so much!


yea, i'm selling it. i'm gonna go DW this time. i gotta a great deal from a friend who has an endorsement and can't pass up his offer to get me a kit. i'm not excited to sell the CZX but can't really afford (let alone store) two kits.

again, here is the link if anyone is interested. includes an icon rack and cases.

[matt_e_williams]

again, here is the link if anyone is interested. includes an icon rack and cases.
ooppss... i mean here is the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7363076083

[CARL PETERSON]

TRAMP...

Your kit is circa 1972 ish..

FYI..Carl

[Gogzy]

My vintage GLX, 1985, with "Vintage" Wood hoops. :rolleyes:
The kit is in mint condition.

animal where did you get your wooden hoops about? ive been looking for some for my snare for a while.

[AL PERCIVAL]

Peter Criss's 1976 Pearl Fiberwood/glass kit on the KISS DESTROYER TOUR 76' . Pic taken August 22, 1976.

[Gogzy]

holy crap thats a big snare

[tramp!]

TRAMP...

Your kit is circa 1972 ish..

FYI..Carl

Could you tell me anything more about it?

[StixNSkins]

My 1985 Super Pro GLX's upgraded to Optimounts & with a complete set of Quarter Toms:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/kwfruge/DRUMS_FRONT_RIGHT.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/kwfruge/DRUMS_FRONT.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/kwfruge/DRUMS_FRONT_LEFT.jpg

Sorry for the crappy images. These were taken a year or so ago on my cell phone cam. I'll have to take some newer pics with my dig. cam. sometime soon. Also, I have several drums that are not shown in these pics: second 24" kick, 22" kick, (2) 18" Floor toms (one converted to a Jungle Gig kick), 2 extra 11X13 toms, & a second 12X14 tom. I have some of these extras set up in a smaller kit configuration right next to the big kit you see in the pics for my students to play on.


AnimalGLX: Your kit is one of the finest looking kits I've ever seen! I'm a GLX nut & I've ALWAYS wanted a natural maple set of these. Those are super sweet bro! I actually exclaimed out loud when I saw your pics of that kit! Very NICE!!!!

DrumBoo: I've always loved your GLX setup with the flames on them. Is that a decal or a custom paint job? In any case they look great!

I also have a vintage Rogers kit, but since they're not Pearl, I'll save them for another thread!

[dkbsaxon]

Been looking for one of these and luckily just found one, after cleaning this is what it looked like!!!!

[Ron "The Sledge"]

My MLX kit was likely manufactured around 1988 to 1990. The first rack tom is an MMX. Sizes are 10, 13, and 16. The kick is 16x22. The 6.5 snare was originally steel shell so it has Super Hoops instead of cast hoops and no snare tension adjustment on the butt plate side. The snare shell is about 3 years old and was signed right after I got it by former Pearl endorser Richie Hayward.

[AnimalGLX]

animal where did you get your wooden hoops about? ive been looking for some for my snare for a while.

The woodhoops are made by Yamaha.

AnimalGLX: Your kit is one of the finest looking kits I've ever seen! I'm a GLX nut & I've ALWAYS wanted a natural maple set of these. Those are super sweet bro! I actually exclaimed out loud when I saw your pics of that kit! Very NICE!!!!

Thanks for the nice compliment :) .

[nickd]

and oldest kit pics so far

1920's

Solid Ash hoops,"15 x 4" ...16 single tensions rods and 10 Vents
One for you lot to drool over :D :D :D

also came with this inside

I Think thats an original Premier "King Snapper" Thats a rare wooden one. I believe most of them where made from steel*. Keep hold of it, its a beautie!

EDIT! - *Nickel

[icurays1]

hey, look! those blue ones on the first page were mine. im the guy he 'nabbed' them from haha.. it was nice doing business with you, carl.

[CARL PETERSON]

Yup..They are in good hands..I have yet to play them..Been way too busy..They look good in my museum.. :o

[Nylinx]

Ok, so I just tried to upload some pics. in my thread and it didn't work, but it allowed me to in this thread?? Guess I will go and try in my thread once more. Like I mentioned in my thread I think these are the Export "Deep Force" 5500 series..

[sticks24drums]

Carl: Maybe you can give me some guidance. I have been a Slingerland guy for at least 40 years. Last year (2005) I had the opportunity to pick up a Pearl kit from a recording studio in NC. Pearl Professional MX Series in natural maple as follows:
22 /10 /12 / 14 / 16 shell pack, no snare or stands. The finish was pretty rough, so I had the shells professionally refinished in satin nitrocelluose lacquer. All of the chrome was in good shape, a minor cleaning was all that was required. I acquired new 1000 series Pearl stands, Eliminator pedal, hat stand, tom posts, etc. All of the shells retained their original badges with serial numbers. I believe this kit to be mid-eighties vintage. Is there a contact at Pearl that can match serial numbers to date of manufacture? Thanks.

Jim F.
Philippians 4:13

[proto78]

Man, I gotta get me some vintage Pearl's...all these pics are tight!

[Drummin' Don]

My present practice kit. Lots of old stuff. :)

Pearl drums purchased in 1980 (except the 2nd floor tom, that is a recent Session series drum. Snare is my first drum, a 1969 Ludwig. Hi hat stand is 1980 Pearl. Cymbal stands on the floor tom side are a 1980 Pearl, 1970's Slingerland and 1980 Ludwig from front to back. Snare stand and cymbal stand on the hi hat side are 1970's Slingerlands. All items were purchased new.

[way2manydrums]

Jim,
As far as your serial #'s..They aren't going to be on file..The only SN's kept on file are Masterworks..Sorry bro..MX's are pre Masters.Gene Okamoto can give you the exact heads up on them..He sits in an office full of archives..I sit in my den with nothing but $100,000 worth of Pearl gear...hehehe..PM him..He's a great guy..

Carl

[kari_convention]

JBRANDT!!!! how do you make your brackets, lugs and all the hardware so clean and shines?????? Is it a new one? Pls teach me.... Mine is very rusty!

[jbrandt]

No secret - all the hardware and chrome was beautiful when I bought the kit 25 years ago, and it never got to looking bad. I have always keft the kit in the basement and have always controlled the humidity in all the living space of the house, but I have never really done anything to the chrome.

I wipe all the stands down with WD-40 every six months or so and then dry them with a clean cloth. That seems to make them behave well. When I replaced the shells, I did wipe all the lugs but never polished them or anything and didn't have to clean off any rust.

Maybe they made better chrome plating back then, but it has always looked good. If you look close there is an occasional pit or place where the chrome has been dinged - especially on the original hoops which I replaced. But I never got anything that spread or coated any large surfaces.

Pearl hardware = the best IMO

Jeff

[afdrummer87]

Im not sure what you consider vintage but i think my kit is about 14 years old

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a267/afdrummer87/mykit.jpg

Classic White Export specs below

[tikilovegod]

Pearl Extender in Orange Flash circa 1982...
WOW! I just bought this set on ebay this morning (3-10-06) from a guy in GA.
I've noticed that several others in this forum have been previous owners, or there are several identical Orange Flash Extender series out there in this configuration. It looks like the floor tom legs have been repaced with new ones, but other than than I bet these are the same drums as have been shown in this forum.

[angry_white_boy]

do these count? Pearl Professional DX seires bass drum with fiberglass toms. This kit is early 80s i think

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/angry_white_boy/IMG_9036.jpg

[lavo]

It is great seeing all these old pearl kits I would dream about as a kid. I collected the catalogs and bitterly had some kit bought from a sears catalog. I actually made fake Pearl badges and glued them on, to bad no pics. What can I say the 70's were a rough decade. So angry white boy, what do fiberglass shells sound like anyway!?

[inderocker]

my MLX... 26", 18", 14".... no idea what year they are from. the steel snare is long gone and a 1980's 14" x 8" free floater has replaced it. still sanding down the shells and preping them for paint.

[steindrummer]

Well, I just posted these under "Show Us Your Kits", but I think that they'll have a good home here, too!!!

Unfortunately, I don't own these anymore (sold them in '92); this was my first "real" kit, and certainly the largest one I've ever owned.

Late 70's or early '80's "All Maple Shell" Concert Tom kit:

6/8/10/12/13/14/15/16 rack toms
18" floor
22x14 bass
6/8/10 roto-toms (in a couple of the pix...mounted over the 6/8/10 concert toms)

Whoa, memories!!!!

[dannyboy]

i bet i have the oldest pearl kit on the forum. i have a 1950's pearl kit. I'll take some pics when i get home ;)

[jeffjdm1]

:confused:Here's an ols Kit I got out of the paper not too long ago. I've made some major improvements since thi photo was taken. But this IS the way they looked when I brought them home. I've never been able to find out what year etc they came out (late 70's-early 80's) If anyone knows it's prob one of you guys. I know they must been pretty old look at the lugs. I want to re-wrap them (org Blk wrap) but would like more info 1st. I'll prob start another thread with this question too. :rolleyes:

[lavo]

steindrummer,
That concert tom kit is killer. Peter Criss inspired.
If you bought that new what did you pay for it? That had to set you back.

[jeffjdm1]

Bump

[steindrummer]

steindrummer,
That concert tom kit is killer. Peter Criss inspired.
If you bought that new what did you pay for it? That had to set you back.

I purchased it used in '86; I'm guessing the kit was somewhere between 5-10 years old when I got it. It was in great shape; some crack head (was crack even around then?) was selling it in the local classifieds, he said he needed th money for "other things"...I paid somewhere between $1000-$1200 for it, including all of the hardware and cymbal stands! A "pretty penny" for an 11th grader, but still a good deal nonetheless!!!

[drummer111]

whoa carl i thought Russ66 was a snare HO but your a Drum HO man

[angry_white_boy]

. So angry white boy, what do fiberglass shells sound like anyway!?


Im no expert but they are heaps better than my old pearl forum or my freinds export. My dads band loves them, i didnt know they were fiberglass till a month after i got them when i took a skin off. Dont kno much about them but i rekon theyre great

[lavo]

I purchased it used in '86; I'm guessing the kit was somewhere between 5-10 years old when I got it. It was in great shape; some crack head (was crack even around then?) was selling it in the local classifieds, he said he needed th money for "other things"...I paid somewhere between $1000-$1200 for it, including all of the hardware and cymbal stands! A "pretty penny" for an 11th grader, but still a good deal nonetheless!!!


That was a great deal for that kit at that time. In 86 I was in the 12th grade and bought an export set that I paid almost that much for and was made out of particle wood shells! nasty.
The high end Pearl kits in the 70's and 80's where made in the U.S. and costs TONS at the time. I would compare them (relatively)to MW prices today

[wvdrumbear]

Neat kit, but how long did the elevator take to get from the ground floor to those roto toms?!? :p

Well, I just posted these under "Show Us Your Kits", but I think that they'll have a good home here, too!!!

Unfortunately, I don't own these anymore (sold them in '92); this was my first "real" kit, and certainly the largest one I've ever owned.

Late 70's or early '80's "All Maple Shell" Concert Tom kit:

6/8/10/12/13/14/15/16 rack toms
18" floor
22x14 bass
6/8/10 roto-toms (in a couple of the pix...mounted over the 6/8/10 concert toms)

Whoa, memories!!!!

[tikilovegod]

Here's a set I put togther as a replica of Peter Criss' Love Gun/AliveII touring kit from 77-78. the rack toms and kick are Fiberglass, floor tom wood, and snare metal. Sizes 6,8,10,12, 12,13,14, 15,16,16, and a 16"x16" floor tom. The kick is 14"x 22", snare 6.5"x14". All in chrome.

[lavo]

Oh Hells yea! You should have thrown on the cat makup for the shot. I am inspired to pull out the old kiss posters.

[Monster_Drummer]

:confused:Here's an ols Kit I got out of the paper not too long ago. I've made some major improvements since thi photo was taken. But this IS the way they looked when I brought them home. I've never been able to find out what year etc they came out (late 70's-early 80's) If anyone knows it's prob one of you guys. I know they must been pretty old look at the lugs. I want to re-wrap them (org Blk wrap) but would like more info 1st. I'll prob start another thread with this question too. :rolleyes:
83 internationals I beleive... I have the same kit here...just with the bottom skins ...etc...
I love the sound of it..

[Mr. B.]

Here's a set I put togther as a replica of Peter Criss' Love Gun/AliveII touring kit from 77-78. the rack toms and kick are Fiberglass, floor tom wood, and snare metal. Sizes 6,8,10,12, 12,13,14, 15,16,16, and a 16"x16" floor tom. The kick is 14"x 22", snare 6.5"x14". All in chrome.


You are the King of the Night Time World and the God of Thunder!!! :D

-Mr. B.

[paistefreak13]

thats sick man but a lil rusty

[paistefreak13]

thats sick man but a lil rusty

[SoCalMike]

What year did Pearl put the Roto toms on top of the drums????? Back in the day 79 or 80 I bought a used Pearl snare and it had the Roto Tom on top :confused:

[wvdrumbear]

That was mid-70's......called the "Vari-Pitch"

[wvdrumbear]

Calling Dr. Love! :D That kit is Hotter Than Hell! (how many other puns can we come up with?)

I would have killed for that kit, back then. Good job!
Here's a set I put togther as a replica of Peter Criss' Love Gun/AliveII touring kit from 77-78. the rack toms and kick are Fiberglass, floor tom wood, and snare metal. Sizes 6,8,10,12, 12,13,14, 15,16,16, and a 16"x16" floor tom. The kick is 14"x 22", snare 6.5"x14". All in chrome.

[Blind Willie Watson]

Here some pics of my Mid 80's Pearl DLX kit (with Ltd Edition Masters Snare)


http://www.7solutions.co.uk/images/Web_friendly_kit_piz/DLX1.jpg

http://www.7solutions.co.uk/images/Web_friendly_kit_piz/DLX2.jpg

http://www.7solutions.co.uk/images/Web_friendly_kit_piz/DLX3.jpg

http://www.7solutions.co.uk/images/Web_friendly_kit_piz/DLX4.jpg

http://www.7solutions.co.uk/images/Web_friendly_kit_piz/DLX5.jpg

http://www.7solutions.co.uk/images/Web_friendly_kit_piz/DLX6.jpg

http://www.7solutions.co.uk/images/Web_friendly_kit_piz/DLX7.jpg

http://www.7solutions.co.uk/images/Web_friendly_kit_piz/DLX8.jpg

[bass_destroyer]

not exactly vintage
but its a discontinued color and stuff, so kinda
late 90's export
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d6/Neefit/c46c166a.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d6/Neefit/57573fd9.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d6/Neefit/60f25dd3.jpg

[AL PERCIVAL]

1. Peter Criss 1976 Destroyer tour kit. Pearl 76' Fiberglass kit in white
2. Peter Criss 1977 Love Gun tour kit. Pearl 77' Fiberwood kit in black chrome.

[andyman1970]

1. Peter Criss 1976 Destroyer tour kit. Pearl 76' Fiberglass kit in white
2. Peter Criss 1977 Love Gun tour kit. Pearl 77' Fiberwood kit in black chrome.

Nice vintage pics!

[AL PERCIVAL]

Nice vintage pics!

Those actually believe it or not were Photo Shoot pics. Here's a real "Live" pic in color from August 16, 1976 from the Oakland Coliseum Arena. I have some up close shots of it I'll have to find them.

[andyman1970]

Those actually believe it or not were Photo Shoot pics. Here's a real "Live" pic in color from August 16, 1976 from the Oakland Coliseum Arena. I have some up close shots of it I'll have to find them.

Keep 'em coming!

[AL PERCIVAL]

:D another one of Peter's 1977 Black Chrome kits from the Love Gun Tour.

I'll see if I can find a close-up of his white Pearl fiberglass kit, they are rare.
It really wasn't solid white, it was white honeycomb.

[way2manydrums]

I have a piece of Peter's mirror kit covering..Looks like a disco ball..I forget what year that was off of..A very close friend of mine built all those kits for Pete..

[strangequark]

Hi guys.

Can you please help me to identify this kit? I've heard it isn't an export?
Pearl-Set (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7410661160)

[nils]

Could be early 80's. That kind of inner coating was done with exports in the 80's. But the kick has 10 lugs. :confused:

[HumppaInferno]

Good evening everybody !!

@ Nils: This Kit is an 1982/1983 ELX. Until 1983 the ELX series had 10 lugs on the bassdrum and was available in traditional and so called "power" sizes.
A matching woodsnare with a parallel-strainer(!!), 10 (!!) lugs an an internal muffler belonged to these kits as well.

Available colours were red,green and brown.

By the way:a brown snare has been sold on ebay for about 60 EUR as well...

I have exactly the same kit apart from the fact that the one on Ebay has traditional sizes and mine has the power sizes.

I just added ISS-mounts for the racktoms and I really love the sound of it.
Other Modifications are black bassdrum hoops (the old ones were dented and bent) and power hoops for the snare.


P.S. I watched this auction as well and I´m pretty angry for myself because I missed it !!!!!! And I wanted a 2nd floortom so desperately !!!!
It took me 10 (!!!) years to find an 8´´ tom on ebay !!!! How long will it take until i find such a kit or parts of them next time ???? :mad:

[strangequark]

Thank you for your answer. I was searching for a set in traditional measures, but the old Rogers and Ludwigs were too expensive for me.

Do you think that this set was a good idea to make "old style" 70s music (Jimi Hendrix, Led Zep, The Who, Deep Purple)?

Were can I get more information to the set?

Btw.: Ich spreche deine Sprache. :)

Greets,
strangequark

[mrak]

Heres my late 80's refinished exports! Wuhan 10" splash not pictured

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/Markthedrummer/DSC00068.jpg

[HumppaInferno]

Thank you for your answer. I was searching for a set in traditional measures, but the old Rogers and Ludwigs were too expensive for me.

Do you think that this set was a good idea to make "old style" 70s music (Jimi Hendrix, Led Zep, The Who, Deep Purple)?

Were can I get more information to the set?

Btw.: Ich spreche deine Sprache. :)

Greets,
strangequark

Just ask Gene Okamoto.

He sent me an exerpt from the 1982 catalogue were the set you´ve found on ebay is also shown. I try to find on my computer. As soon as I´ve found it I´ll post it here once again

Greets

Frank

[nutzo_dot_net]

amazing pics all!

[Mackson]

I've had this kit for 20+ years (originally purchased from a family friend so I think it's at least 25 yrs. old). I think it's a "Pro II Series" - it has maple shells, gauger rims, & sounds fantastic.
Is it considered vintage? I unfortunately need to sell and don't know how much effort to sink into marketing it.
Any ideas/opinions??

[RattaTatTat]

^^ ^^ v.nice, thats one big hole in the bass reso lol. how does it sound??

[Mackson]

LOL - I guess I'm dating myself - but I was going through a John Bohnam phase and couldn't get enough kick! (wooden mallet/etc).
Trying to ID the series - any idea?

[Lycanthropunk]

I don't know if it's classed as vintage, but here's my Pearl DLX in Wine Red. It's about twenty years old. I've posted more pics on Show Us Your Kits, but I thought I'd put a couple here too!!

[Alcatraz]

Hi guys, does anyone have an idea how much these would be worth.
Pearl Wood Fibreglass circa '76 recovered in green sparkle

14 x 10
16 x 16
26 x 14

No hardware.

[AL PERCIVAL]

Hi guys, does anyone have an idea how much these would be worth.
Pearl Wood Fibreglass circa '76 recovered in green sparkle

14 x 10
16 x 16
26 x 14

No hardware.

Very nice re-wrap! I'm guessing $400-$500.00 tops just because the wrap isn't factory original.

[way2manydrums]

Bout 300 bucks IMO..

[bryantewell]

hey alcatraz, i do the heel toe thing too

i have an 80's pearl export series drumset that has the flattest, most like plain red color in the world. I very much dislike this kit, but the drums dont sound too bad on it. I'm pretty dumb and decided I was going to just take the wrap off of the highest tom (it has 5 toms) one day, assuming the outer wood ply of the shell was like.... a light colored hardwood at least similar colored to maple, boy was i wrong. it was like the dirtiest looking piece of wood i've ever seen, and the drum is in pieces to this day. anyway, i dont have a picture of it on this computer or id post it. I kinda bought a dw kit on ebay 3 years ago and the drumset hasnt seen any sort of rock show or anything since. just practicing. if i took care of the drums again i'm sure they'd be pretty decent drums, i'm just too lazy. here's a picture of me with my real drumset.
http://www.thegreenwoodsite.com/gallery/March%202005/DSCN1299.JPG

[bryantewell]

mackson- i've never seen rims mounts on old pearl drums before, are those orig?

[Mr. B.]

Here's a little vintage Pearl jazz setup I fixed up about 6 months ago...

Cira 1973,

18 X 14 bass
12 X 8 ride tom
14 X14 floor tom

New Pearl stand/tom mount

I had originally figured on listing it on Ebay but ended up selling to a local music shop just last week, I hope it makes someone happy soon! :)

-Mr. B.

[drumboss]

Peter Criss's 1976 Pearl Fiberwood/glass kit on the KISS DESTROYER TOUR 76' . Pic taken August 22, 1976.
I was upset that PETER CRISS went to DW because what he did for Pearl,
is close to what RINGO did for Ludwig....and somthing went Down because over the years,Peter has spoken out a little, and is bitter over there Business relationship
even after all these years....dont know the details,,does anyone know what happened
and IM not just talking about him 1st leaving Kiss..but it is true when Kiss became huge in the 70's, Its a fact that Pearl's drum sales sored..went right threw the roof.
and it attracted other big rock drummers as well....when I was 11 I had a Ludwig kit,and when I saw peter, me being 11 I had to have a Pearl,oh I have had other kits but I have been playing Pearl for 31 years,and I'am a full time pro and still use Pearl on the job !!...and Pearl has never let me down......thanks Pearl for Making great Products !!!!

[Eastern-Dark]

Hey everyone,

Here are my vintage Pearls! I'm eager to know what type and how old they are... I'm guessing about 1970 or so?? Not a bad kit, sounds quite good (the snare isn't great) although unfortunately the wrap has shrunken quite a bit around the lugs. Snare pictured is a '57 (or '60?) Ajax.

Cheers!

[PanamaDrummer911]

Did anybody notice that in the movie "Me, you, and Dupree", the married guys name was Carl Peterson? I started freaking out.

[AL PERCIVAL]

I was upset that PETER CRISS went to DW because what he did for Pearl, is close to what RINGO did for Ludwig....and somthing went Down because over the years,Peter has spoken out a little, and is bitter over there Business relationship even after all these years....dont know the details, does anyone know what happened and IM not just talking about him 1st leaving Kiss..but it is true when Kiss became huge in the 70's, Its a fact that Pearl's drum sales sored..went right threw the roof.
and it attracted other big rock drummers as well....when I was 11 I had a Ludwig kit,and when I saw peter, me being 11 I had to have a Pearl,oh I have had other kits but I have been playing Pearl for 31 years,and I'am a full time pro and still use Pearl on the job !!...and Pearl has never let me down......thanks Pearl for Making great Products !!!!


I agree with you. When KISS first started out, no drum company would give Peter an endorsement except Pearl. So he was tried and true with Pearl right up to his first departure in December 1979.

With a 17 year layoff, Peter wasn't in the spotlight (as a preforming drummer) until the reunion tour in 1996. Peter Still Played a Pearl kit (MLX Chrome and Black).

It wasn't until 1997 for the Psycho Circus tour, that Peter started playing DW (with KISS). Peter had been playing DW's since 1993 with his side projects (CRISS and the Bad Boys of rock Tour Peter and Ace).

It was Peter that got me to buy my first set of Pearls in 1977 also.
Peter can choose to play whatever he wants, Eric Singer is keeping Pearl in the KISS family so its still all good! :D

[way2manydrums]

Eastern Dark...Your kit is early 70's..Like 1972 or so..FYI..Carl

[AL PERCIVAL]

Eastern Dark...Your kit is early 70's..Like 1972 or so..FYI..Carl

See ya in one week!!!!!! :D

[iced oranges]

hey guys
need help i.ding my kit
i inherited it and have no knowledge of vintage drums
its from 60's/70's
cheers
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8093/1001296ef1.th.jpg (http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1001296ef1.jpg)

[Mr. B.]

Iced Oranges, Welcome to the Forum!

Looks like you have a 1969-’72 Pearl “Valencia Outfit” with “Tigereye Pearl" wrap. This was the entry level kit at the time.

It sports the first version of the “Free Adjustable” tom mounting system introduced in ‘69. This simple arm with a single set screw was quickly replaced (1970) with a bent arm with 3 or sometimes just 2 set screws. However sometimes on the lower end models they would still use left over outdated hardware. This model was discontinued after ‘72.

It’s interesting that the Valencia Outfits, Junior Outfits, and metal snares of this era still used the old pre 1966 oval vent badges. All other models used nailed script badges until ‘73.

Cool Kit! Tigereye is one of my favorite wraps, it’s a original that didn’t copy any other company.


-Mr. B.

[iced oranges]

thanks for that

[phips]

Great thread, and even better kits. Thanks for posting guys. Pearl does not seam to have a big "Vintage" following. But as we can see they do have a rich history. :)

[drmurray]

Aquired my set in 1982 when I was in high school. It was a Pearl Black leather 5pc and a 3pc Ludwig set a neighbor had combined to form a monster set with 3 roto-toms. The Ludwigs were recovered to match the Pearl set. In the years I have owned my set I have gone thru numerous hardware set-ups. A gibralter rack is the lateset. The Ludwig tom and floor tom were smashed by an ex-girlfreind. Have no idea what year they are but I suspect somewhere in the mid seventies. Loud drums. I definately use ear plugs when I play. Everyone tells me my set is loud. I've thought about replacing her with a new set, but now I would never part with it. She looks old and used but I never have seen another set that came from the factory in black leather.

Thanks for any info/bro/pics/links anyone has to this year of drums I have been wondering for a long time what year my drums were.

Take it easy.
DRM


EDIT: My work computor will not let me download my pics of my kit so I will download some later when I get home.

Cannot upload pics because i am getting laid .

Just kidding, my home computer won't work either.
If anyone has any info on these drums it is very appriciated.
I cannot load pics but I can tell you they have hammered on logos with the newer logo. the hardware is the ball type with the 3 set screws on the ball.
large crimp type tom mounts, not the set screw type, but are the hexoganal type of bar, with a larger t-bolt crimp system for the height and length ajustments. anyway.... the year is in question... any help would be great...

SMOKE EM IF YOU GOT EM
drm

[Mr. B.]

Thanks for any info/bro/pics/links anyone has to this year of drums I have been wondering for a long time what year my drums were.



Welcome to the Forum!

Starting in 1975 Pearl had a wrap option called “Black Leatherette” It looked a little like black Nogahide upholstery. The tom mounts & badges you describe also sound consitant with Pearl’s 1973-77 style.

I hope that helps?

-Mr. B.

[drmurray]

Mine looks like a black alligator skin. Thanks now I know what years to be looking for to replace/add any drums. I wanted to load a pic I have of the set but for some reason I cannot attach images.

Can I e-mail you a pic so you can post it for me?


DRM

[The_Tech]

1973 pearl w-5 deluxe rock/jazz kit :rolleyes:

[ConvertedLudwigPLayer]

Pearl BLX - Seqouia Red with black Pearl MX Snare (14x8); and Tor O Dor kit, which I believe was made my Pearl when they were an OEM.

[novelwriter56]

I'll try to post a pic of my Majestic Deluxe kit.http://thumb15.webshots.net/s/thumb3/7/1/74/66170174Ombnbd_th.jpg (http://community.webshots.com/photo/1066170174045042515Ombnbd) http://thumb15.webshots.net/s/thumb3/6/94/27/66169427nXFMYk_th.jpg (http://community.webshots.com/photo/1066169427045042515nXFMYk)

Michael

[Lar-Ge]

This is my Pearl Professional DX-kit from 1984(?).
The snare is a Ian Paice Signature :)

[Beatles Fan]

I bought them in '88.
They have a outstanding sound to them.
Enjoy ;)



Cliff :cool:

[trommis1]

nice kits

[mrak]

I just took a pic of my early 90's export rewrapped when I moved it up to my games room so thought id post it. :)

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/Markthedrummer/Photo-0012.jpg

[sgsnbgs]

Can anyone tell me the value of my drum kit? I purchased it new in 1964.

DSCN0636-640x480.jpg

[DrummerJIB]

well im suprised i havent posted mine...not sure of the date, late 60's i believe

[ThePloughman]

1960s Stewart Drums, ............... a Pearl stencil kit. I picked these up for next to nothing, did some minor restoration work, packaged them up with some PowerBeat cymbals, and gave them to a neighborhood kid for christmas 3 years ago. They were destroyed in a house fire last year. But they were nice. The lugs said Pearl on the inside.

[Eirik75]

My BLX kit (early 90's) and CZX kit (late 80's) :)

[wsgnst]

Here's mine:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c169/wsgnst/Pearl2.jpg

Thanks Carl for giving me info on it a while back. I notived you had a matching snare for it in one of your many snare collection pictures. I got it with a chrome snare that had the same style badges. A good kit, but the bearing edges are pretty beat up. I retro fit it with newer hardware. It is definitely a players kit...not a collectors piece.

[antoin10]

Sweet set of drums! I have a set of CZX in jet black. Iv'e had them for years now. Ihave been trying to find out more about these paticular set of drums, is there any info you can share with me or lead me in the right direction. Thanks, Anthony

[Lonelyvillain]

http://web.mac.com/michaelgluth/iWeb/Site/Drum%20Photos.html

[vezdrums]

Purchased this from Carl on ebay. The day it came, I took it out of the box and was really impressed at the look alone. Then, I tuned it up and was even happier. I've never had a floor tom sing like this kits 14' and the drums stay in tune better than my sonor. Hopefully the pic uploads, I'm a newb. :o
Edited to say, I've removed the original tom mount since this picture was taken and I recently scored a 22'' hi-bell low zildjian K custom constantinople to help make this kit my complete jazz kit.

[Eirik75]

Sweet set of drums! I have a set of CZX in jet black. Iv'e had them for years now. Ihave been trying to find out more about these paticular set of drums, is there any info you can share with me or lead me in the right direction. Thanks, Anthony

Pics? Pleeeeease :D

Pearl CZX were Pearl's "flagship" series in the late 80's/early 90's, and were 10 ply/8mm (toms) 12 ply/10mm (floor toms + bass drums). Maple drums with an outer veneer of Italian birdseye maple, only available in #300 Champagne finish. In '92/'93 pearl introduced the SZX series (same ply/mm config, but in birch, and available in Midnight Quartz and Crimson Quartz). At the same time the CZX (maple) series were available in a few other finish options: Sheer blue, Amber, Sequoia Red (all over birdseye maple) and Piano Black.
The CZX kits in Champagne finish are rare, and a CZX kit in one of the other finishes is SUPER-RARE (I've got i pic of a Sheer Blue CZX kit, and a pic of an Amber CZX tom, but that's all I've ever seen of a CZX kit with one of the '92/'93 finishes). Take good care of her mate :D

-Cheers,
Eirik

[ConvertedLudwigPLayer]

Purchased this from Carl on ebay. The day it came, I took it out of the box and was really impressed at the look alone. Then, I tuned it up and was even happier. I've never had a floor tom sing like this kits 14' and the drums stay in tune better than my sonor. Hopefully the pic uploads, I'm a newb. :o
Edited to say, I've removed the original tom mount since this picture was taken and I recently scored a 22'' hi-bell low zildjian K custom constantinople to help make this kit my complete jazz kit.

That Ruby Strata kit looks great. If Carl had it, I'm sure it is in great shape. Nice acquisition.

[CABIII]

I am brand new to this forum. I played in the 70's and early '80s. My son is now playing and I'm getting nostalgic for the "good old days". I had a set of red satin fiberglass drums just like the ones you showed, only with just one floor tom (the 16"). Loved those drums! Wish I never sold them.

Do you know if they have a model name or just Pearl with the fiberglass tag?

Thanks for any info you have!

CABIII

[tempest]

I recently purchased this 70s Pearl maple set in pretty bad shape. I took them all apart and cleaned them up. They came out pretty good but I have to redo all the bass drum hardware some day. They sound great.
Today I found the exact same set in perfect condition for real cheap. I like the sound of these so much I may spring for them and make a double bass set.

[German ViKiNg]

I'm from germany so my english is very bad. look at my set: i hope you can give me some information about it, because i dont know any details about it. i bought it last year for 150€ and i think that this was a good deal.

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/7578/dsc01478hr6.th.jpg (http://img352.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01478hr6.jpg)

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6250/dsc01480gx4.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01480gx4.jpg)

[Mr. B.]

I'm from germany so my english is very bad. look at my set: i hope you can give me some information about it, because i dont know any details about it. i bought it last year for 150€ and i think that this was a good deal.

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/7578/dsc01478hr6.th.jpg (http://img352.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01478hr6.jpg)

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6250/dsc01480gx4.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01480gx4.jpg)


Welcome to the Forum,

The Bass hoops, lugs & Tom mounts place it as 1969-’72. The badges are from the end of that range, so its likely a ‘72.

The wrap is either Dark Pearl Blue or Pearl Blue, check this link where you can download a 1969 catalog for reference.

http://www.pearldrum.com/03_nuupdts/edu/products/history.html


-Mr. B.

[Russticles]

Here's an old Pearl kit i've been meaning to post for a while. I'm guessing it's from '72, possibly the series before the Presidents? Any info would be much appreciated.

http://pics.livejournal.com/d_mac77/pic/0032hz0k

22x14 kick
13x9 rack
16x16 floor

Also had a 14x5 steel/aluminium snare with it aswell, the strainer only allows a strap to be used on the wires and it's really annoying to attach so I haven't quite figured it out yet!

Also, ignore the kick head, it came with the kit, I haven't gotten around to switching that out yet ;)

[German ViKiNg]

Welcome to the Forum,

The Bass hoops, lugs & Tom mounts place it as 1969-’72. The badges are from the end of that range, so its likely a ‘72.

The wrap is either Dark Pearl Blue or Pearl Blue, check this link where you can download a 1969 catalog for reference.

http://www.pearldrum.com/03_nuupdts/edu/products/history.html


-Mr. B.

thank you.
but in the catalog are other tom holders.


and what is the meaning of this logo?
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7574/dsc01485ml7.th.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01485ml7.jpg)
i mean the little "japan"

[gretchy]

Can anyone tell me the value of my drum kit? I purchased it new in 1964.

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1584/attachmentjd5.jpg


I just bought a kit like that. But mine is in VVVVV that tiger-wrap and has the gold script badge. I'd be interested to know how much $$$ it's worth and all that as well.

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/4656/attachmentmj2.jpg








My first kit was a mix of Apollo and Majestic. The Apollos were in that exact same tiger wrap and i've been looking for anything that matched that for a long time to be able to fill out a whole kit. Much to my surprise I walk into a local portland drum shop and do a double take at this old pearl kit sitting along the wall in the exact wrap. I talked the guy down a hundred bucks and bought it right there. The only thing wrong with it is crappy heads and no spurs on the bass drum. some of the other hardware isn't original, but i'm not really interested in that if it works better.

Now i've got:

Apollo - 20x16 and 16x16
Pearl - 22x16, 16x16, 13x9, and 14x5.5?

all in the same wrap.

[gretchy]

aannnddddddd here's the kit.



http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/1711/newkitbl0.jpg

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/6595/newkit2xs6.jpg

[Mr. B.]

Nice Score!

With the 10 “Diamond Cut” lugged snare & the 20 lug bass it looks like you got a President series.

Script badges & rail tom mount, but with metal bass hoops likely makes it very early 1969. That wrap is called Gold Oyster Pearl.

Other than what appears to be a missing snare throw tensioning knob it looks to be in very good condition.

I’d recommend not making any permanent changes to it like drilling holes for Spurs or tom mounts, etc...


-Mr. B.

[PauloRiven]

Hi Carl.

Beautiful kits, by the way.

I am having some difficulty determining the Pearl Drum Kit my father purchased in 1973-1974 from a music shop up here in Canada.

I know that they were a Master model, either works or series, or even MasterCraft, not exactly sure. I do recall that the emblems on the drums were not the thin cheap tin type tags that just said Pearl on them, like the vintage 50's model I saw today in the drumstore.

They were a brass or bronze stamped tag about 3 inches long and 1 inch wide and about 2/16ths in depth, in other words, quality tags.

I am sure they were CBS Masterworks or Master Series and they were a white marble type finish, I believe Maple wood.

I am still researching and trying to find out exactly what they were, as I have no pictures or documents. The guys here say that masterworks was not out until the 90's.

Hope you can help me out here.

Thanks - Paulo Riven

[Monday317]

I'm like you folks; got the Vintage Bug. I sold my 2002 BRX kit on eBay, thinking I might go to Ludwig or build a Keller kit. Then I came across this puppy, and a nice '68 snare to play with it. I'm going to rewrap this summer in Midnight Blue Abalone, and see how she comes out...

[phips]

I'm like you folks; got the Vintage Bug. I sold my 2002 BRX kit on eBay, thinking I might go to Ludwig or build a Keller kit. Then I came across this puppy, and a nice '68 snare to play with it. I'm going to rewrap this summer in Midnight Blue Abalone, and see how she comes out...

You sold your BRX......................are you %$#@&^ CRAZY ! ! ! ! :mad:

[Monday317]

You sold your BRX......................are you %$#@&^ CRAZY ! ! ! ! :mad:
You know, that's not the first time I've heard that. Lemme 'splain:

Got the BRX kit, loved it. The 10 x 8" tom never really tuned well, and may have been a bit out of round, but the Masters Series are truly great, well built and high quality. That said...

Pearl loves to gas on about how they make their shells. Boiling glue into the pores under pressure, and parking Hummers on them. Wonnerful. But when I got to Chicagoland and bopped around places like The Drum Pad, where they have zillions of different kits, I began to hear things in other kits I wasn't hearing from Pearl's. True, this is stuff only you would hear sitting at the throne, but still--

See, to me, a kit's timbre is important--like a good cigar. You buy a $1.00 cigar at a drugstore, and you get a smoke. You buy a $5.00 cigar at a tobacconist's and you get an experience. Sure, they're both burning tobacco leaves, but the better cigar will have a complexity of flavor that the cheaper cigar doesn't have. Same with wine if you don't smoke, but you get the idea.

Now Pearl has accomplished what they set out to do: make a superior quality shell. But in doing that, they lost some of the shell's innate character. Stradivarius violins have a tone and projection modern violins aren't quite able to emulate and plenty of musicologists, chemists, and other scientists have been working on this for years. One of the things they found is that the wood in the Strads have open cells that act as resonant chambers, aiding in the tonal projection of the instrument. Having listened to many kits, old and new, I am beginning to see where the HC/sms process may be killing that by filling the pores with non-resonant adhesive.

By contrast, Keller shells which are said to be second to none in their tonal quality are built under pressure, though not a lot of heat. Yamaha and Ludwig are similar examples and I hate to admit it, but the tonal qualities of their shells are noticably more complex. I went to the Vintage & Custom Drum Show here last weekend and got to hear many different custom and vintage kits, and it's the same all over again. Why do you think there's so much interest in vintage kits--especially here on the PDF?

I guess I'm comparing a modern Pearl kit to the difference between an LED lamp and a regular lightbulb. The LED is more modern, uses less juice, and produces more and better light for it's size than an old lightbulb. But that old lightbulb gives a nice warm glow, and a little heat--nice in the wintertime (and great if you're a bald old fahrt like me!) and is just a bit more soothing in a room. Or, try reading a book on a computer vs. holding a paperback in your hands. The computer is certainly more techncally advanced, but when you want to sit and read, nothing beats paper.

The point is that when I compared Pearl kits to the others I found that the Pearl kits across the board, were of the best quality. But if you play an MMX kit next to a Ludwig, Yamaha, or Taye, you find the MMX is just a little flat sounding. A little less complex, a little less resonant. Sure you wouldn't park a Hummer on a Ludwig--but you wouldn't do it to a Strad, either. I wish the good folks at Pearl would listen closely to their products and then some others--especially some older kits--and see if it didn't give them something to consider.

Anyway, I have my 1972 Pearl kit, and it sounds wonderful! I miss the BRX at times, but will just update my old kit from time to time, and see if I can't bring it up to date. Maybe Pearl will release a Vintage line one day, made in a different way, that will complement their current lines. Who knows?

[pdbang]

can someone tell me where i can buy a bbc-1 bass drum bracket masking plate?i need one for my 16x24 mlx bass drum!

[Monday317]

Mass Music (http://www.massmusic.net/shop/?shop=1&cat=953&cart=5517585) has 'em for $15.00 USD.

[ConvertedLudwigPLayer]

Monday,

You may be onto something with the glue in the cell chamber theory. The Strad is a great example BTW.

I'm curious as to how much of a factor the aging of wood is in drums overall tone. I would think that as the drum ages and dries out that its tone would have to change, as well. Less moisture inside the wood has to have an effect on the sound.

I like your idea of the vintage line, as long as they use modern hardware :)

Good luck with wrapping the kit. I think the wrap you chose will look great.

[Monday317]

Monday,

You may be onto something with the glue in cell chamber theory. The Strad is a great example BTW.

I'm curious as to how much of a factor the aging of wood is in drums overall tone. I would think that as the drum ages and dries out that its tone would have to change, as well. Less moisture inside the wood has to have an effect on the sound.

I like your idea of the vintage line, as long as they use modern hardware :)

Good luck with wrapping the kit. I think the wrap you chose will look great.
Why, thanks, CLP! Am I nuts or are you hearing something similar? I see you have a few different kits there.

Something I don't get is how stinkin' great most acrylic shells sound. :confused: Cast acrylic in and of itself shouldn't really be too good tonally, and yet look how popular Vistalites, Zickos, et. al. are these days. I heard a nicely built kit from RCI at the Vintage Show, and they were superb. Bill Zickos claims to have R & D'd the shell issue to death, and felt that acrylic was the best overall material based on its cost, ease of use, homogenous makeup and reaction to vibration. There's some folks in Japan making Titanium shells, and of course we have the Trick drum guys here, so I dunno really. Wood still sound best to me, but then I'm old... :cool:

For that matter, they had one of those glass kits at the show, and although they are certainly a Liberace-esque head turner, I wouldn't want to lug those suckers around anyplace. But for a house kit in a swanky bar or hotel lounge, they'd be a great tool to have.

Anyway, thanks for your thoughts. Anyone else want to weight in? :rolleyes:

[ConvertedLudwigPLayer]

Yeah, I'm an old guy. I started playing in 1976 on the Tor Dor kit, and added the VistaLite in the early 80's. After not playing much at all, I got back into playing the last few years. I was amazed at the improvements in mounting systems and hardware in general.

I definitely am "hearing" some of the same things as you.

Regarding the acrylics, I think the bearing edge and heads have a lot to do with producing the sound that we like. (Wood, obviously sounds warmer to me, but I like the acrylic sound. ).

Gretsch uses the Silver Sealer, Pearl has lacquered some of their shells and used fiberglass, Ludwig used to paint their interiors. They may be others, but none are coming to mind at the moment. I think the common theme is that they were simply making the inside of the drum smooth, allowing sound to travel from top to bottom without a lot of interference from the sides of the interior eating up the sound.

If I had the tools and time I would be curious to see how something as simple as a PVC tube would sound if the edges were properly cut and hardware was added. I've heard of someone doing it with a snare. It could be interesting experiment.

[Monday317]

Gretsch uses the Silver Sealer, Pearl has lacquered some of their shells and used fiberglass, Ludwig used to paint their interiors. They may be others, but none are coming to mind at the moment. I think the common theme is that they were simply making the inside of the drum smooth, allowing sound to travel from top to bottom without a lot of interference from the sides of the interior eating up the sound.
My 1972 kit is Luaan on the inside, and a little rough at that. Before the bearing edges get touched up, I'll go over the inside with sanding sealer and some 400-grit garnet paper to smooth things out--one step to that vintage sound as you indicated. Maybe a bit of varnish or such after that.

BTW, a lot of vintage drums I see have outside single 45° edges on everything except the snares, which seemed to favor rounded 45° edges (NOT roundover like on Reference kits!). I'll have mine done as they were as made--outside 45°. :cool:

If I had the tools and time I would be curious to see how something as simple as a PVC tube would sound if the edges were properly cut and hardware was added. I've heard of someone doing it with a snare. It could be an interesting experiment.
It's been done; there are tons of homemade octobans made using PVC pipe out there! I dunno if they make the stuff as large as 24"* so you could make a whole kit with bass drum, but don't see why not otherwise. Heck, they're making snares out of old cast iron sewer pipe (I hope they clean it... that'd be some patina you wouldn't want on your drum! 00** ) and if that sounds good, you have to ask: just how important are the doggone shells after all?! :confused:

*edit: They do. (http://www.harvel.com/pipepvc-sch40-80-dim.asp)

[phips]

GREAT post Monday, you make some interesting points. I don't remember, did you have the Mastercast hoops or Superhoops on your BRX ?

[Monday317]

GREAT post Monday, you make some interesting points. I don't remember, did you have the Mastercast hoops or Superhoops on your BRX ?
Thanks, Phipper...

I used Superhoops on the small toms (10 x 8/13 x 10") and kept the Mastercast on the 16 x 16" FT to keep it focused. That worked pretty well; today I'd be more tempted to install S-Hoops (http://www.safehoop.com) all around.

The Optimounts were replaced with I. S. S. mounts on the hanging toms, but after reading Gene's posts on the proper use of Optis, it may have been incorrect installation that kept the smaller toms from resonanting well with them. The 1972 kit will wear S-Hoops with an Optimount for the 13" tom.

[Mr. B.]

Here’s a little Bop sized mid 70’s Pearl fiberglass I picked up recently. I thought it might be handy if I need to play an outside gig.

It does need new heads but is otherwise in good condition ( I don’t know who DJ is? ).

20 X 14
16 X16 (wish it was a square 14)
12 X 8

-Mr. B.

[INKO]

Hello everybody, thats nice Mr. B.
Is that a pres. on the shelf in the back of yor pic.
This is my pres.
Can any of you guys tell how much this kit is worth? :confused:

[Monday317]

Hello everybody, thats nice Mr. B.
Is that a pres. on the shelf in the back of yor pic.
This is my pres.
Can any of you guys tell how much this kit is worth? :confused:
I've been looking at older kits these days, and in general, the big money comes from American-made kits from the '40s, '50s, and '60s for the most part. Some '70s and '80s kit will also have residual value if they are limited-issue, or associated with a band. For instance:

'30s/'40's Rogers, Ludwig, Gretsch and Slingerland do pretty well as collector's items, especially if their wrap is intact. Some of the old wraps were very classic and highly sought after. During the WWII years, metal content inproducts was limited by law, so you saw some kits with wooden lugs and rims, and thos in good condition have value. Many post-War '40s and '50s kits are prized, though some years were transitional for some manufacturers--Ludwig, for instance. Of course,'60s Ludwig kits are in high demand, though the true afionado will not want some of the '65-'67 kits as Ludwig was running night and day to meet demand and some of those mid-shift kits could be less than great. '70s Vistalites do very well, and sometimes kits once used by name artists will do well for historical value. Then you'll find '90s to early 2000s Ludwig kits fall off in value, as their quality got bad.

The point is that, sadly on the general market a Pearl President kit, even in great shape is not likely to fetch a great deal, say in the $800-$1500 range a good 60's Ludwig kit might do. What I would suggest is to check around here on the PDF, and some vintage drumsites to see if there aren't some collectors specifically looking for a good President kit. Yours looks terrific, and with a little work, might fetch a fairly good price, maybe $750 or better.

There are some fans of Pacific area kits that will sometime pay out the nose for a kit to use the components to finish a kit they themselves are working on. I've heard of folks wanting a tom, and buying a whole kit for $900 just for the tom alone! Or sometimes someone wants the hardware off an old kit. You never know, and some research can really pay off.

Good luck!

[INKO]

Thanks for your info., Ill keep reserching and maybe come up with somthing good.

[Mr. B.]

Hello everybody, thats nice Mr. B.
Is that a pres. on the shelf in the back of yor pic.
This is my pres.
Can any of you guys tell how much this kit is worth? :confused:


Hi Inko,

I haven’t checked this thread in a while and I’m glad to see you finally made it on-line.

Yes, that is a 1969 4pc President in my photo.

To get a feel for the value, just visit Ebay once or twice a week for a while to see what they’re going for.

Good luck!

-Mr. B.

[Saydlowski]

I just got a Pink Diamond 5x14 Pearl snare with the oval black/red/silver badge. What hoops originally came on this drum? This one has a triple-flanged batter and a Stick-Saver style snare side hoop. One of 'em must be right, but I don't know which one.

Also, what's the approximate year/decade of manufacture? I've looked at old catalogs and can't find this finish anywhere with this particular badge...

Thanks!

[Mr. B.]

Welcome to the Forum.

Those big red “P” badges where used by Pearl until 1966, and also continued to be used on budget models (6-luggers) and metal snares into the early 70’s.

Here’s a 1968 catalog page that shows that warp- No. 11 “Sun Set” It doesn’t show up in the 1969 catalog.

Those stick saver hoops where occasionally used on early Pearl drums, but of course in pairs. It’s likely that the triple flange is a later replacement.

-Mr. B.

[Kiwi Pearl Fan]

hiya, i recently purchased what i believe to be a vintage Pearl kit finished in gold oyster pearl. i have no idea of the series or model of the kit and would like some help in identifying it. thanks for the advice.
John

[Mr. B.]

Wow,






I’m glad you got the photos to work, that is a beauty!

With the matched wrapped snare it’s likely a Dyna-Max model- 1971 or ‘72.

That’s also the original snare stand, pedal, & bass reso.

Is the little drum key pouch new? In not that's a very cool detail.

Thanks for sharing!

-Mr. B.

[Kiwi Pearl Fan]

thank you, Mr. B. I have the original matching hihat stand, just didnt have it polished in time for the bottom photo, although you can just see the top of it in the top photo. the kit came with two original drum key pouches, one with an original key in it, and the other one empty, but i managed to get an original drum key off a local dealer so it matches as well. the set has the original stool, which needs a little bit of work. the bottom part (the tripod bit) really needs to be rechromed, and the foam padding was all but disintegrated. so a little bit of money spent will bring it back up. other than that, all i did was strip it, clean the drums and polished all the brightwork. i kept the original reso head, and replaced all other heads with remo ambassodors, cos it still had the original heads on it. oh, and it also came with the original cymbals, too! however, i'll keep these for showing only, as they are pretty flimsy, and have a "unique" sound. cheers and thanks for your help. John

[Unhallowed]

okay heres what I am playing... thought I might as well post it here because of how it started...

my kit started life as a 1968 pearl valencia
my friend Mylen bought it as a "decorative" piece for his house, and it was rarely played except by some random hack at parties
well Mylen got into a few car accidents, and had to sell his house, so he gave it to my other friend Jeff, who stored it at his dads house untill last year.
I started getting into drumming again(after putting down my sticks for a few years), and I needed a kit. But, alas, I was(and still am) broke. So he decided to give me the kit. It was in horrible condition... the wrap was stained, the heads had holes, the cymbal was cracked...
So, I upgraded. Well if you can call it upgrading. I went and bought a used tama swingstar set at my local music store, then bought borrowed and stole everything I could untill I finally ended up with this:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c87/bartman84/CIMG2031.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c87/bartman84/CIMG1964.jpg

[lovetheblues]

I happened to find the bottle of water at a local sandwich shop.

[coltenk]

Do these count?

(Setup isnt the same as in these pictures. I've been messing around with everything but I wanted to show these old pics I had.)

1984 Pearl Export

I'm not even sure of the color. Help please? :)

[bender]

Hi,
New to the forum and looking for some help identifying this piece.

Was told it was a Pearl (came with a Remo/Pearl CS head), but now wondering if what they meant was that it was a "pearl" wrap drum.

If actual Pearl, any idea on model or year? Any idea besides ebay where to find matching toms?

The wood is thin ply, but really was just looking to put together small bebop/jazz set up.

tia for any help

[Monday317]

Do these count?

(Setup isnt the same as in these pictures. I've been messing around with everything but I wanted to show these old pics I had.)

1984 Pearl Export

I'm not even sure of the color. Help please? :)
I'm not a serious expert on 80's vintage Exports, but might be able to help a little. Color looks to be Wine Red lacquer--no surprise there--there's probably been enough of the stuff sprayed onto drum sets to fill Lake Michigan!

It's not easy to date your drums without a better look at the lugs and nameplates, and bearing edges. Pearl's drums were evolving in those days, and I dunno exactly when they went to heat compression molding of the shells. Surprisingly, these older drums often have terrific tone and resonance, that a little work can make stand out!

Oh, as to the other stuff, here's my 2¢:

Drum Fund: $130
Saving for:

Nice Snare Drum for under $400 (Suggestions?)

Consider a Concert Series snare; great maple shell w/tube lugs. If you prefer metal shells, Sensitones are quite nice, and very affordable.

(2) New crashes (Custom A's or HHX?)

Dunno; you really need to bash some at a local store, or try Cymbals Only (http://www.cymbalsonly.com) and see what they have you might like.

New Heads (Evans)

In general, coated G2s over clear G1s or Resonants seem to be the most popular around here. Clear EMAD batter over whatever reso for the bass (Interstate Music has a Pearl-logo Smooth White Ambassador (http://www.interstatemusic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10021&storeId=10051&productId=900000221&langId=-1) that's quite good...)

NICE Throne (PP, Pearl or RnS)
EVERYONE has an opinion on this! Go try some at a store, is all you really can do. My own is a Pork Pie seat on a Pearl stand, and I like it because the foam is quite firm, and I like Pearl's quality the best of all. What you like may be very different. All the brands you mention will do well for you. Your call!

Good luck!

[coltenk]

Thanks man! That really helped me out! :)

[Supraphonic]

This is my old Pearl set from the late 70`s. I sold it last week.


http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3392/20071101pearl0019smallev5.jpg

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/654/20071101pearl0012smalliz7.jpg

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/7323/20071101pearl0020smallxt3.jpg

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2347/20071101pearl0018smallsf9.jpg

[Keeno]

Can anyone help identify my drums? Bought new in 82. Still have them. What is the official Pearl designation for these. I remember "Pearl Jazz Beat" on the tag. Speckled finish inside shells. Jet black. Shell Material? Where were these as far as lower level, intermediate, upper line? They were around $600- $650 back then. Thanks (They are dusty so the flash reflected off dust in the pics. They are in good shape.)
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/keeno_photos/pearls003.jpg
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/keeno_photos/pearls001.jpg
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/keeno_photos/pearls002.jpg

[saunders]

Late 80's Pearl Worlds WLX Antique Ivory 80's hardware added Metal Piccolo Snare !
What do you think ?

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc15/saundersa_2007/DSC04091.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc15/saundersa_2007/DSC04079.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc15/saundersa_2007/DSC03987.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc15/saundersa_2007/DSC03166.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc15/saundersa_2007/DSC04080.jpg

[pearldude]

Peter Criss's 1976 Pearl Fiberwood/glass kit on the KISS DESTROYER TOUR 76' . Pic taken August 22, 1976.


Those drums where all maple, check with Nashville drums or percussion in Nashville TN not sure of the right name, but they built those, the 77' , 78' tour kit that was used on the 79 tour too, and the 96' 97' tour kit for Peter. they have pix all over the store of them and peter picking them up.

[chingyot]

Gentleman ya'll got nice!!!! kits

[KirkDS]

Wow, I can't believe some of these awesome vintage kits. I really love the ones from the 60's and 70's.

Here are my 1985 MLX in wine red (what's the official color?) Got them for Christmas that year from my parents who got them from Atlanta Pro Percussion. 22,10,12,13,16,18 (Don't use the 18 and rarely use the 16)
I've used them on every type of gig imaginable since then and they're still in great shape and still sounding incredible (new hardware, opti-mounts, etc.)

A current pic from my house
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/KirkDS/Kirk%20drums/DSC01648.jpg

For a little "before and after" historical perspective, :) here's a pic from the 80's... Rockin' at Cowboy's in Myrtle Beach

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/KirkDS/Kirk%20drums/MyrtleBeach89.jpg

And one from a couple of weeks ago at a local club here in the Minneapolis, MN area.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/KirkDS/Kirk%20drums/Kirk_Bogarts4.jpg

[Keeno]

Kirk, Those are some fine 85's. Nice to see your still gigging with the same kit. I have had my 1st set since 82. (see above pics) I just purchased my 2nd set at age 42. Gretsch Catalina Maple (in signature). I have purchased cymbals at Atlanta Pro Percussion also. I have to stay away from there or I would be bankrupt!

[korch]

Kirk,

Great pics. That is a great looking kit. I am curious.... How do you think the optimounts effected the sound of your toms? I ask as I have a BLX kit that I have been thinking of adding Optimounts to for quite a while.

Charlie

[Monday317]

Kirk,

Great pics. That is a great looking kit. I am curious.... How do you think the optimounts effected the sound of your toms? I ask as I have a BLX kit that I have been thinking of adding Optimounts to for quite a while.

Charlie
Optimounts are great--IF you install 'em right! Check for Gene Okamoto's take on that.

My BRX came with them, and I hated them, and went to ISS mounts to open my toms up. Later, I learned I had installed them incorrectly, and now, I use them on a vintage 1972 Pearl kit and the toms sound great!

The short version is that you install the top end right up against the batter drum rim to bear most of the weight of the drum. The bottom end should "float" between the rim and the lug casing, to merely support the drum in position. I had installed mine tight against both rims, and that'll deaden a drum about as well as an Evans Hydraulic batter and reso head!

If your toms are shell-mounted, Optimounts will really make them sing! eBay is your friend here.

[HybridT@vo]

Mid 70's Pearl wood-fiberglass (actually on sale jejeje :D )

http://s251.photobucket.com/albums/gg308/HybridTavo/?action=view&current=1-1.jpg
http://s251.photobucket.com/albums/gg308/HybridTavo/?action=view&current=2-1.jpg
http://s251.photobucket.com/albums/gg308/HybridTavo/?action=view&current=3-1.jpg

[KirkDS]

Optimounts are great--IF you install 'em right! Check for Gene Okamoto's take on that.

My BRX came with them, and I hated them, and went to ISS mounts to open my toms up. Later, I learned I had installed them incorrectly, and now, I use them on a vintage 1972 Pearl kit and the toms sound great!

The short version is that you install the top end right up against the batter drum rim to bear most of the weight of the drum. The bottom end should "float" between the rim and the lug casing, to merely support the drum in position. I had installed mine tight against both rims, and that'll deaden a drum about as well as an Evans Hydraulic batter and reso head!

If your toms are shell-mounted, Optimounts will really make them sing! eBay is your friend here.


Korch, Keeno, - Thanks! It's fun to have a kit this old that still looks nice,sounds great, and is updated with the current technology.
I went to the Opti-Mounts back in 2000 when I moved to Nashville and figured I'd better have some new drums...or at least something that looked like it was from the current decade :) So, I kept my shells (with rims, lugs, etc.) and replaced everything else (rack, hardware, cymbals, etc.) Still using the first cymbal I ever got, a Zildjian '21 Rock Ride from 7th grade in '81. Sounds great, looks new, has been everywhere with me, and I can't bring myself to use anything else. Still using the Free Floater that came with the kit. It came with an aluminum shell, but I replaced it with copper in '89.

Oh, yes... What Monday317 says about the Opti-Mounts is true. Big improvement as long as they're mounted correctly.

[drumgrrl_downunder]

My 69' President kit in blue tiger..I nabbed these from a guy in Seattle,WA. 22,12,13,16..
hi carl wow this is a very nice kit ;)
cheers

[Stranjluv101]

Optimounts are great--IF you install 'em right! Check for Gene Okamoto's take on that.



The short version is that you install the top end right up against the batter drum rim to bear most of the weight of the drum. The bottom end should "float" between the rim and the lug casing, to merely support the drum in position. I had installed mine tight against both rims, and that'll deaden a drum about as well as an Evans Hydraulic batter and reso head!



Would you mind showing a close-up picture of how you do this?

[Monday317]

Would you mind showing a close-up picture of how you do this?Yes. :eek:

That said, if you check Gene Okamoto's thread on Optimounts, he has excellent illustrations on how they work! :cool:

[German ViKiNg]

I'm from germany so my english is very bad. look at my set: i hope you can give me some information about it, because i dont know any details about it. i bought it last year for 150€ and i think that this was a good deal.

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/7578/dsc01478hr6.th.jpg (http://img352.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01478hr6.jpg)

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6250/dsc01480gx4.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01480gx4.jpg)



Welcome to the Forum,

The Bass hoops, lugs & Tom mounts place it as 1969-’72. The badges are from the end of that range, so its likely a ‘72.

The wrap is either Dark Pearl Blue or Pearl Blue, check this link where you can download a 1969 catalog for reference.

http://www.pearldrum.com/03_nuupdts/edu/products/history.html


-Mr. B.

thank you.
but in the catalog are other tom holders.


and what is the meaning of this logo?
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7574/dsc01485ml7.th.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01485ml7.jpg)
i mean the little "japan"

[drummermike]

I bought these brand new in 1982 in Vancouver, BC. I don't know what model they are. Anyone have a guess?

http://www.freewebtown.com/fedupmeals/drum1.jpg

[Mr. B.]

and what is the meaning of this logo?
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7574/dsc01485ml7.th.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01485ml7.jpg)
i mean the little "japan"


I missed seeing this when you originally posted it last year. I also apparently missed correctly seeing the badges in the pictures you posted prior to my evaluation of your kit.

I can tell you that based on catalogs for the North American market that badge was new for 1973. And tom mounting systems were also made heavier that year for all but the low-end & Jr. models.

If your Kit was for the North American I would now say it was likely made in ‘73 and used a older tom mount system that was supposedly phased out. This type of inconstancy is not unusual for Pearl kits of this era.

Sorry for any earlier confusion.

The little “Japan” were on all of the badges in this style and has no other special meaning.

-Mr. B.

p.s. Your English is good!

[KirkDS]

I've posted pics of my stuff before, but since my band has the week off, I'm spending some time getting everything setup just right...and since I've been enjoying you guys' pictures, I thought I'd take some more myself to share.

1985 Pearl MLX - Wine Red
22,10,12,13 (16 and 18 not pictured and hardly ever used)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/KirkDS/DrumRoom/Drums1-07b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/KirkDS/DrumRoom/Drums1-07a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/KirkDS/DrumRoom/Drums1-07c.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/KirkDS/DrumRoom/Drums1-07e.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/KirkDS/DrumRoom/Drums-driversseat.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/KirkDS/DrumRoom/Drums1-07f.jpg

[German ViKiNg]

I missed seeing this when you originally posted it last year. I also apparently missed correctly seeing the badges in the pictures you posted prior to my evaluation of your kit.

I can tell you that based on catalogs for the North American market that badge was new for 1973. And tom mounting systems were also made heavier that year for all but the low-end & Jr. models.

If your Kit was for the North American I would now say it was likely made in ‘73 and used a older tom mount system that was supposedly phased out. This type of inconstancy is not unusual for Pearl kits of this era.

Sorry for any earlier confusion.

The little “Japan” were on all of the badges in this style and has no other special meaning.

-Mr. B.

p.s. Your English is good!

thanks for your comment!

[Indiana CZX Man]

WOW :D ,
This is my 1st ever post on the Pearl Drummers Forum!
Here is my story
Exactly 10 years ago, Circa: 1998, I went on a midwest tour with a Pearl Custom Z
Champagne Birdseye Maple kit
The sizes I owned back then were 10x10, 12x12, 16x16, and 22x18 along with
a 14x6.5 inch Pearl Free Floating Brass Snare Drum
I played sold out 6000 seaters.
Those drums were the most amazing drums I have ever touched.
I have owned alot of kits.
Now I just found on ebay and bought a Pearl CZX Studio Birch Burgandy Sparkle kit.
I am in Z heaven
AWESOME :)

[Indiana CZX Man]

WOW :D ,
This is my 1st ever post on the Pearl Drummers Forum!
Here is my story
Exactly 10 years ago, Circa: 1998, I went on a midwest tour with a Pearl Custom Z
Champagne Birdseye Maple kit
The sizes I owned back then were 10x10, 12x12, 16x16, and 22x18 along with
a 14x6.5 inch Pearl Free Floating Brass Snare Drum
I played sold out 6000 seaters.
Those drums were the most amazing drums I have ever touched.
I have owned alot of kits.
Now I just found on ebay and bought a Pearl CZX Studio Birch Burgandy Sparkle kit.
I am in Z heaven
AWESOME :)Psalm 33:3

[Danuk]

I've posted pics of my stuff before, but since my band has the week off, I'm spending some time getting everything setup just right...and since I've been enjoying you guys' pictures, I thought I'd take some more myself to share.



Beautiful kit!

[nils]

Absolutely beautiful kit. And soundwise in reach of the top series of today.

Nils

[odeu]

hi Carl, hi all,
i'm new here.
may i introduce my drumkit?
http://membres.lycos.fr/henrifalisse/latoileDB/drumok.jpg
this is a blx first generation sequoia red (end 8o').
except the 10" tom is generation II blx (9o') no 10"x10" for generation I
it's too difficult to find a 8"x10" blx.
http://membres.lycos.fr/henrifalisse/latoileDB/ok.jpg
with 10/12/13/14/16/22
http://membres.lycos.fr/henrifalisse/latoileDB/tob3.jpg
and my custom 12" SD on a custom snare stand.

as cymbals, i use:
tosco 13" hihat, P2oo2 18"&12", P1o1 ride, Zildj oriental 9" & avedis 8", meinl rake 16" and i'm waiting for a second custom trashy closed hi hat by Jamie Lambert (saluda).

[odeu]

odeu: hoo very nice, your kit, odeu.

odeu: thanks odeu. yours is very nice too.

odeu: ??? it's the same???

[lovetheblues]

Odeu, I agree with you about Odeu's kit. And very interesting snare stand.

[odeu]

thanks LoveTheBlues

in fact, this is my 2nd snare (12").
it's the reason i put it like that on my base snare stand.
(odeu says, :D :rolleyes: )